Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Know Your Role

Each and every person has their role to play, be it father, mother, wife, husband… etc. My roles have been father, son and husband… friend and even boyfriend to others. I remain a strong person, committed to my responsibilities, but does or can my role change with my transition? Can I be a mother, while upholding my fatherly responsibilities? Can I be a fulfilling husband as a TransWoman to my wife? Can I still fulfill to my parents the aspirations they had for me as their son?

I won’t make a cop-out statement that “I am who I am” or “I’m the same person I always was”, because, quite honestly, I’m not -AND- if you would have asked me this even a year ago, I would have not agreed with what I just said.

My role will remain the same so long as responsibility is attached to it. I will never stop being a father even though my kids call me Chloe. THEY know who and what I am to them, still, those days of father comes to school for show and tell can be tough on them and me. Last Christmas, my children had such an event - now I am a staunch Transperson - committed in my path… but… the politics of that became water over the dam when my six year old ask the Phone Man to come for Father career day at school… how could I disappoint him?

I had thought to ask my father to fill in as some other children did with their grandparents for whatever reason they did. But that’s not the point. My child HAS a father - ME! Could I be Chloe and represent his Daddy too?

Nervous, I arrived at the school and awaited in the lounge as requested by my sons teacher. A class room of 1st graders awaited -what would they think? How would my son be treated and viewed by his class mates after this day? The teacher walked in and after a short conversation on what to expect and cover with the class, we headed to the room.

When I walked in, I didn’t even notice what the class room looked like - all I could do was scan the room for my son… and there he was. In that moment, he turned to the visitors walking in the room and when I walked in with my AT&T clothes, tool belts, meters , pinned back hair, and pulling off the best male look I could, he exclaimed to the children “That’s my Daddy!”…

At that point, all my inner term-oil of presenting myself in this manner were washed away. I began to show the kids photos of me on the job, climbing poles with ladders and spike… going down manholes, in creepy dark tunnels under the city and even riding a cable car that trolleys you out to fix a cable where ladders and bucket trucks can not reach - for example, cable that runs over a wide river (Someone has to get out there and repair the cable when it goes bad there - how else do you think we do it?) The kids loved it.. and they loved seeing all my gadgets and learning what they do and how the phones, Internet and TV is all brought to homes, schools and commercial buildings. THAT’S LOGAN’S DAD’S JOB!

I had thought to go as Chloe - because, honestly, my children know me no other way. Their pre-schools, friends parents and neighbors ALL know me as Chloe and as a Transgendered person. Why did I revert back to being a male for this period?

That my sisters and brothers, is a mystery that may only be unraveled in the silence of the night when you walk in your sons bedroom and he is fast a sleep with a smile on his face, clutching on to his toy phone man truck…

I know my role… and I know where that role is buttered too.


-Chloe


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You have a good heart and soul. Good luck on your journey.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 01:51pm (EDT)


Kids are more resilient than we realize. I had the same concerns as you, as my teenage son lived with me during my first year in transition. My concerns were for naught though, because even though everyone at his school learned about his dad switching gender, they were all really cool about it. I'd been to his school numerous times... always as Michelle... and he was never teased. In fact, one of the boys even called me a MILF (grin).

Wouldn't it have been a hoot, if you had gone as Chloe?

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 11:12am (PDT)


I read your blog and said wow what a inner soul u have and how much u have to give to people. You do in the moment what u need to do. I will keep u in my prayers and u go onward...wherever that leads you my friend.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 02:18pm (EDT)


Angel, I have gone to each of their schools as Chloe, and like your son and son's school mates, they do not tease my kids, rather ask questions. Their teachers knew I was Transgendered and made no issue of it - except to request that my kids do not talk about it in class, instead if they feel the need to talk about it, or children have questions, they are invited to speak witht he teacher about it. But for this circuimstance, my son needed is his Daddy... and I was happy to provide that need as best I could.

To Debby and Smitty, thank you for taking the time to read and get to know me more. You are new friends to me here, thus proving that keeping my 360 alive is well worth the frustrations we are all going through.

Bless you all,
-Chloe

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 02:28pm (EDT)



Wow Chloe I don't know what to say. My son is getting married in September and is hoping I'll wear a tux. His future father-in-law is officiating the wedding. Yep both his in-laws are ordained ministers. All invited know I am trans woman so I'm searching my soul for how to attend.

My spouse pointed out a pink woman's pant suit I might wear. That's one of the wedding colors so we'll see. I just don't think I can be comfortable there in a tux playing father of the groom. Yet I don't want to make others uncomfortable either. Guhh, some decisions are so very difficult.

I want that smile on my sons face too. My heart is aching on this one.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 11:30am (PDT)



Teri, you get it... you understand how hard it was for me to do what I had to do... but I decided to not make "the Moment" about me, cause it wasn't about "Me", it was about my son.

If I had gone there as Chloe, it probably would have been ok too. Bur, that wasn't the point - the point was to fullfil a need, no matter the price to fullfil that need and responsibility I took on as a father - no matter how I felt about it.

It took me a few days to come to that, and even waiting in the teachers lounge to go to the class room, I was in pure hell... seeing all the pretty teachers in their nice professional out fits - living their full fem self lives... I tell you I was eating my soul out.

Walking into that class and seeing my sons delight, well, I knew that "HE" got it too. He understood, even at 6, that I did something for him. He realized that his daddy is always with him and will rise from the ashes to rescue and protect him in a moments notice - that HE is a priority to me, and my needs are second.

Some would say "Then why Transition at all"? Thats easy: You transition to save yourself, but I'm no longer dying Teri (not from this), and I can take a moment to remove the oxygen mask from my face to put it on those that need it.

I guess in the end what really sunk in was that I was more upset that I could not make a statement by being myself in all aspects of my life - be it my work, church and even my sons Show and Tell for Fathers. I realized that it wasn't about being myself then - now it was about an agenda... and I was being selfish.

My son and his freinds and his school know me as Chloe too - but thats the beauty of being Transgendered - we are who we are no matter the clothes. I present feminine - but even post op, I am under no dilusions that I am their mother or a natal woman - I am not. I am a surgicaly ultered Male or aka: M2F Transexual. Period. I will live and present as a woman - but I will not rule out those special moments that (as Smitty pointed out) "I will have to do what I have to do".

Personally, if I was going to go to a wedding - I'd dress like all the other females by wearing a dress (if that was what everone else was doing) Dress Pants to me, would be "skirting" the issue (Pun intended) & (Giggles)! I look forward to hearing what you decide.

If and when my sons do have these special moments - I will ask them what their wishes are and I will do my best to fullfil their need - it is all I can do.

Kari had the same issue come up but in a different way - She was invited by her Ex to attend her wedding. However, the crushing blow came to her when she was UN-Invited to that wedding because the Ex realized that if Kari came, the attention at the wedding would not be 100% about Kari's Ex and new husband - it would be about Kari - the Ex Transexual. Kari was crushed.. just absolutely crushed - but she showed me depths of a human being that I never knew exsisted when she explained to me how she understood and was dealing with it and in the end, she agreed with the ex and did NOT want to make the day about her... besides... adding insult to injury was the fact that she had ordered a beautiful dress to wear there and was now holding the bag with no where to wear it - AND we all know how that feels... *Shutters*

These are my truths and how I handle them - in no way will I judge or look down on ANYONE that handles their situation differently or who disagrees with how I handle mine. To each their own situations.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 03:25pm (EDT)



Chloe, another awesome blog. You REALLY need to come spend a week here with us, soon. We've very much in common, and loads to talk about... Dads do whatever dads can for thier children. There are no limitations when it comes to our kids. We are simply parents who love our children unconditionally. When Reg and I moved back down here to Tampa, my first inclination was to live in the same town from whence I came (Spring Hill). Louisa (my ex) has her reasons that come from her instincts as the ever-protective mother. She doesn't want to risk running into people either she or Kayleigh knows and would be put in an awkward position should she have to introduce me or explain the embarrassing circumstances of my now being female to them. Lord knows what the kids in school would do to Kayleigh if they ever caught wind of such tid-bits of shocking local hillbilly news. She most certainly would be the outcast for years to come. <<>> Sorry, but I cannot let that happen to my child, either. I can preach TG enlightenment for the rest of my life, but the minute Kayleigh asks me to be her *father* in a public forum (such as your son's school event), I'll be putting on those drabs and giving the old "man" act another brief go 'round... or if one of the two boys wants to play some baseball, I'll be reaching for my cleats, bats and glove without any hesitation, whatsoever. Not all aspects of my past male bravado were horrible or despicable. In fact, I'm damn proud of a good part of them, and probably always will be. xoxo -Jess

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 04:41pm (EDT)



Chloe, I think this story tells me a great deal about your own personal maturity, not that I’m a person to be judging your character. But having known you for some time now, and having read your blogs over the last year, I know this used to be a topic that clearly vexed you (as it still does me).

For a transperson to be able to see the simplistic need of a child and to “sacrificially” put his or her status on hiatus in order to do what they see is best for their child to me is simply admirable. There is definitely those in the camp who would argue “No, you should use this opportunity to show people you are who you are, and they are the ones who need to deal with it.” I’m not in that camp in this specific instance. You know who you are, and your life and your relationship with your children is ever evolving.

The day will come when “only Chloe” matters. I don’t think this was that day.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 02:01pm (MST)



Chloe, To me your story shows what a wonderful person and more importantly woman you are. On this occasion you put the needs of the children far above yours, which shows the care and love you have for them. You were woman enough to put their needs at the time far above your own.
Hugs

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 11:22pm (BST)



Chloe,
Many struggles with the "Inner self" as well as the "Outer self" going on here.

Sure being single you would have less problems but still have family struggles. And some to help with that just move to another location and start a new life somewhere else.

But when you have already established a life with a wife and children(expecially the children)(wives you can divorce) you take on 2 roles.

Sure alot of these struggles are hurdles that you have already crossed and there are more to come.

There will be no crossing over from the "mans" world so to speakand then back to the "female" side. Y

Yes the female side has taken over, as many times it does. But there still is the "male" gender side that was born and raised as such still trying to give a kick now and then to let you know he is stll around.

Living both genders has its advantages though. You know being male what attracted you to females and the roles each played in society.

Then again maybe crossing over won't be as bad as I am thinking. Maybe you have jumped over the hurdles I am talkin about. Even I have "What Ifs?".

This TG world forks in so many different directions. We could sit here and talk all day. abput each others struggles, views and how we might deal with issues. Hell we could make our own talk show(If you do this I want my gratuity for coming up with the idea).

I'll let you go for now. Always nice talkin with you. Sorry about my ramblin'
Hugs,
Tamera

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 06:52pm (EDT)



Chloe, you're right. In my first comment, I neglected the age difference. My son was 16 and also had the option of living with his mother in a different town if things didn't go well. When my children were little, I didn't even consider transition an option... I had a responsibility to them as their father, and their needs and the needs of my wife were far more important than my desire to be a woman. I do not envy you - and others - who have to perform such a delicate balancing act.

I'm glad that you put your son's needs first.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 04:11pm (PDT)


Gosh, now i want a toy phone truck too.

but not as much as I want an all expenses paid trip to Thailand and a do-over for the last 30 years. xoxo

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 06:12pm (CDT)


Jessica, I don't have to tell you - I know your in the same situation and I feel a personal growth inside me from talking to Reg and you on the phone as well as reading your Blogs. I hope to take you up on coming to Florida very soon and stay with you for a bit, meeting your families and getting to know you both on a more personal level. There are Dayds I just KICK myself for not making that trip over to PA when you were only a few hours away.

Lori, I am humbled by your observation. You are performing such an important and dangerous service to all of us - You risk your life for the better of all of us... and in that field, you are a leader. I feel quite honored to have earned your friendship, let alone your favor for my growth.You, as well as Jessica above are 2 very special friends to me because we are in almost identical situations with our kids.I wish you both were closer so that we could lean more on one another - but thank God we have this internet forum.

Davinia, Its always a treat to hear from you - (I cought you over on my Vimeo Page too Thanks for the comments there and here. I am "Learning" to make others a priority - its SO hard some times to realize that you are being selfish or self centered - and when your not or infact NEED to be selfish. When it comes to my Kids, I can't say I have always done that... I am learning and trying to now... I have alot of tranish to polish in my family relationships... I did alot of selfish things - but I know now and I am trying.

Tamera, "Size zero??" You Bitch!!! lol Good for you babe - You never fail to look great. Seriously though, I agree with you that living both genders has its advantages - it has its disadvantages too... There isn't a day that goes by that I do not privately envy Cross Dressers or PRE & NON Op, Part Time TS's that have compartmentalized their life successfully, maintaining their duality of Gender Treking. GAWD, this would havebeen great - but it really is NOT an option or a choice for me. I MUST be Chloe ALL the time cause there never was a Ted... Just Chloe whom was programed at birth - told what to do, where to stand and what I can and cannot be. Being of my own mind and freeing myself from the guilt, I am left weightless to float to the top as my true self for all to see... there is nothing to keep me below... because I left those chains at the bottom of the ocean.

Angel, I have thought many times if my sons will treat me different as they get older. I mean - they are so good to me now and are not confused at all... but we all know how peer presure is. I have to be careful making these concessions too many time, because I do not want it to become expected ALL the time - by them, or anyone else. I don't want to present a message that they could interpreted as "Daddy is Better, because Chloe is not understood or feared by others".

Diane, Here is a close copy of the old one I had that is now my kids.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dbjorn/441410866/


Thanks everyone for commenting here - AND for sticking around 360. I just love you all and feel so stressed lately as I watch people leaving one by one - thanks for sticking around! *Group HUG*

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 09:08pm (EDT)



Chloe, as usual, you stuck the hammer right on the head of the nail. You are so with it is so uncanny. I hope others can learn from you and practice those lessons in everyday life.

We all, at times, must do what is for the better despite how we feel internally. I know a many of a TG sister that has said the hell with it for 'I am who I am' (to paraphrase). You, and likewise many other sisters myself inclusive, do not take that path. You and I have talked in the past just how important your children are to you. They always will be long after they go to college and begin their adult lives. One thing that no one can say about you is that you were a poor parent.

One thing though, I hope you did not have a purple tongue when you addressed your son's class! ROFL!

XOXOXO, Monique

P.S. Yes, I'm migrating my Y360 page, yet I'm still here (my Yagooy email and YIM will remain...my blogs are migrating to LiveJournal and media to Facebook - in fact, if it works well, FaceBook for the time being, will be the overall replacement of my Y360 content as I can RSS from LiveJournal to FaceBook). As for leaving you and never being in touch again, well ain't gonna be. You're stuck, like it or not! ;-)
Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 10:55pm (EDT)



Chloe that was awesome that u made an sacrifice fer yor son like that and didnt even secondguess it :)

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 11:13pm (CDT)



Chloe,

I admire you.

My youngest asked me today when I picked her up from daycare a question I didn't see coming as she has called me Karissa for over a year now. I had buckled her in and when she started to drive away I heard her say "daddy, I don't want to call you Karissa anymore because mommy has a new husband and you are my daddy so I want to call you daddy again"

Talk about being caught off guard. To a four year the complexities of how people see us in a store or so on just aren't understood and I so want her to be comfortable with these next set of changes that are going on.

It was only a month ago that she had called me her second mommy and now she has changed her mind because she "WANTS" a daddy - and in her eyes… that isn't my EX's new husband.

I've been to the school a ton of times now and as the changes that took place move farther and farther into the past - being the trans parent isn't something that I had wanted because I wanted my kids to be treated the same by the other kids. I learned that the kids don't care, aside from the other 2 moms I am friends with... the other mom's assume I am the Aunt or actually my EX.


As time moves on - I don’t really know what’s ahead of me or how I will see the situations until they actually occur. Life goes on - I don't know if today's request will be repeated, or even what I will do if it is - All I can say is that I do admire you very much.

Take care sweetie.

Love,

Kari

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 12:56am (CDT)



have always been hesitant to engage my female life with my childrens social life. That is a part of their life that they work at that excludes us as parents. Like it or not it eventually happens. However..they both know of their Fathers activity. And as cool as that is..I woul dnever show up dressed as Mom at a one of their ball games. instead I show up as a poorly dressed man with clothes I never wear.

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 12:10am (PDT)



Chloe, although I can't relate to you here, not having any children, my admiration for you only gets stronger. You are an amazing woman, my friend, and I'm sure one fine dad, too.

((HUGS))
Kelli

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 06:04am (CDT)


Hi CHLOE
Just wanted to say thats a wonderful blog and story hear on your 360 .

Best wishes for your upcoming trip .

Lots of love .
Tina Marie

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 04:22am (PDT)


Since we are Trans, we need to learn how to operate in the grey, more often than the pink or blue. Militancy will get us no where, but submitting to our roles will help us to mainstream most effectively. Thanks for posting Chloe.
Holly

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 10:33am (EDT)



As you and I have discussed, I think the most difficult part of transition is not the obvious things like costs, proceedures and medications, but the impact on the family and in particular the children. I took an easier path to wait until they were much older(young adults) before I began the process more intensely. I have been to your home and I saw your children and how they love you and embrace you as Chloe and I think we make sacrifices in life for our children because we love them. Children today are more curious but they are also more adaptive than we were as well. I am glad you had a great time in school being your son's Dad and showing the children what you do on the job. Hugs, Melissa

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 10:56am (EDT)



Chloe,

We can all learn a lesson from your story. Children are impressionable and if they feel most comfortable calling us their Daddy even after our transitions, we should abide by that comfort zone of the child. As you pointed out, you are your little boy's daddy and he is proud of you. I am too. You did good.

I don't have any children and my family line stopped with me and my sister. Now that she's gone, I have only me but if I had a child, I hope that I would do the right thing just as you did. I would hate to risk losing their love and affection just because I might have been made to feel uneasy about myself.

I got much out of your story. Thank you!

Love,
Rachael

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 09:00am (PDT)



Glad you and your son enjoyed yourselves at the school event. Tina is only part time for me. So I may not know, but do understand what you had to go through. I think you made a wise decision. Family and friends are one thing, but other parents is a whole different story. You see it on the news all the time. It's always good to here stories with happy ending.

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 11:35am (CDT)



Once again you demonstrate that you have a HEART Chloe....and if you continue to follow it, you'll always know which "role to play" (easy on the butter though) *wink*

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 07:49pm (EDT)


Chloe, what an excellent episode. Very brave of you to be so determined and forthright. All the best and thankyou for sharing... it is quite an experience! By the way, if we do need a "phone man" or a strong person to help, you would be the one I would call! Regards Kerrie

Friday April 25, 2008 - 11:35am (MDT)


Chloe, what a wonderful story. As a parent we always have to put our children first. What you did was a selfless loving acted, that I am sure has not gone unnoticed. I think by going to your sons class as his 'Dad' speaks more about who Chloe is as a person then if you went in everyday mode. It is that person that keeps me coming back here reading your blogs.

Saturday April 26, 2008 - 08:02am (PDT)



Chloe - oh wow. That was very sweet and selfless of you. Kids remember the love and the attention they get. Both your story and Karissa's almost made me cry. I can't imagine how difficult and yet rewarding it can be to be a trans-parent.

Monday April 28, 2008 - 08:16am (CDT)

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Jealousy of Ice Cream

A peace has begun to dawn in my heart - One that I have not known before which can only be described as being in limbo, suspended weightless - like a Neanderthal who has stared for so long outside his icy tomb which now begins to melts – The ten million year old echo of a last heart’s beat resumes to warm the blood, to be reborn again – Perfect and timeless, in an out of time world.


At any given point in my life, I have felt off balance, uncoordinated and unable to center my attention on any given direction – has this changed… quite honestly, not yet. GRS is not a magic wand that when waived will solve your problems… nor are you no longer immune to the pitfall and perils that Transsexuals seem to fall in and out of - one of the biggest being Jealousy.

However, with each day that approach’s, I feel a sense of distance being put between me, these feelings and those that use to call me friend or sister… This makes me sad as my surgery status has (for them) changed the way they look and feel about themselves. Friends that supported me for years are now the ones that have severed their ties and expect my departure from Trans World, leaving them with little in common with me. Why?

One friend of mine spoke openly and honest about this. She told me that she is and always will be dealing with “Her” issues and being around me is bitter sweet in that she is overwhelmed with happiness for me, but more angry with her own progress leaving her with an after taste of bitter jealousy for mine.

How can I reach and help this person when being around me makes them quietly resent me? I was thankful that she told me the truth of why she has distanced herself, but it made me cry and feel bad… bad because unknowingly, I may have been not thinking about those around me who are still struggling with their GID issues and here I am… the kid that was in the right place at the right time to catch the ice cream truck, licking my bomb pop on a 100 degree day and wondering why the others don’t want to watch me enjoy it or play with me when I'm done. {sigh}

I can’t do or saying anything or even THINK of something to help these people or situation… I can’t buy ice cream for everyone… Instead, I have decided to eat privately down the street with the other kids who caught the truck, wiping my mouth off before I come back home with blue tongue, that may make theirs go green.

I understand now and I am not saying that everyone has been that way – but there are a few out there that have. These people really hurt me when they evaporated before my eyes - or took stabbing shots at me out of anger from their frustrations, leaving me powerless on my end to fix it or defend myself. I understand this now and I have let go of that powerless feeling and the hurt erasing the question mark above those relationships… delicately sealing them for now with a wax stamp to be reopened by them when they are ready.

Thank you for those that have been there for me through thick and thin – at my best, at my loneliest and when it was hard for them to hold back their own issues in order to support and encourage me.

I have worked hard – suffered great loss and paid my dues, jumping through all the hoops and hurdles to cross this completion line… I'm going to Thailand with only a sense of peace and accomplishment. In short, I am going to sit here in the shade for the next 28 days, enjoy my ice cream and not feel guilty about all the calorie’s everyone else gets from watching me lick.

I’ve earned it!
-Chloe






You deserve the opportunity to enjoy what you have earned. I have dished out my share of sour grapes, but that was more from feeling sorry for myself rather than happy for someone else. You can't be all things to all people, Chloe. When you are good to yourself, you are in better shape to show a smile to the world - which I know encourages me.

Best of luck!!! This is an exciting month.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 10:24am (EDT)


Yeah, stop hoggin' all the ice cream and gimme that bomb pop!

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 11:04am (EDT)


I'm glad that you finally realize that there's only so much you can do for other people in this shared situation. When it's all said and done, the only one you are truely responsible to is yourself. You need to take care of yourself first and let the chips fall where they may. There is always pain with growth and change, it's unavoidable, but we all must continue on anyway. To stop because of the pain of lost relationships is to lose yourself in the process. You must do what you need to do first, and then "clean up the mess" after. I'll be watching your progress with great interest and wishing you complete success and speedy recovery!

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 10:07am (CDT)


I’m not jealous but I am a bit envious, but not to the point of being resentful or feeling any malice toward you. Honestly Chloe some of us are just plain happy for you. Sure some wish they could do what you’re about to do. Some may never be able to or want to make the change.

There will always be things we have no control over and can do nothing about. So it does us no good to be bitter or complain over such things. What we must do is change the things we can and need to when we can. So you go girl I’m rooting for you. When the time is right for others to take this path then it will happen.

But,,,,, if you come back with your bomb pop and a superior attitude like you’re better than others without one then don’t expect to be asked to play hop scotch with your old gang. Fact is you will be different. If these surgeries didn’t make a difference then we wouldn’t bother to do them would we?

Of course GRS and FFS are way more than bomb pops aren’t they? There’s some risk, pain, and maintenance that comes with them. Not to mention the cost of these bomb pops. To be honest I doubt anyone is going to want to lick your bomb pop for quite some time. Yikes! This analogy has gone to far.

But please share your experiences because some of us would like an idea of what to expect when we get our own bomb pops. Don’t just stand there with you blue tongue hanging out.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:27am (PDT)


I can totally understand where Teri is coming from, because I've had it happen to me... a post-op friend who acted as if she were somehow better than me because she's post-op... even to the point of calling me a man. I find such things ironic, because I do not get that from real women.

I often ponder the irony of the whole transsexual experience. We proclaim that we're women and that what's between our legs does not define us... but in the end, we spend thousands of dollars to change that thing... that thing that few people will ever actually see. We claim that it's not autogynephilia, yet we see a vagina as some kind of prize, and we become jealous of others who are able to obtain that prize. In the end, it's all about the physical and we transcend nothing. Kind of sad, really.

Chloe, I really do wish you the best, because I know this is important to you. Don't consider it a completion though... only the beginning of a new chapter in your life.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 11:16am (PDT)


Honey you will always be just you. I kow you will be with us always whatever we deside to do. I haven't met you personally but I have met Debbie and sd zher you will always be with us even with your transfer because you live our life to. You understand becase your mind will still have you complee life in it. So just grow and know those of us who are just like you without the surgery do understand if we really think about it. grow sweetie.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 02:36pm (EDT)


I think of the girls who have had, or made the opportunity to transition, as inspirational. It takes such courage and fortitude to travel that journey. For me the best medicine for my personal woes is to share in the triumphs of others who find a way to live as their true selves.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 03:03pm (EDT)



You complete one journey, only to start another. One where the female is the inferior and the male was superior. Where the female has the power over the male for their sexual appetite. Where you will no loner cross the lines between male and female.
Yes you will cross this hurdle that you have waited and hungered for, only to see what uncertaintees lie ahead.
Oh and speaking of ice cream, you can keep the calories to yourself. I love my size 0.
Hugs,and I wish you the best.
Tamera

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:06pm (EDT)


Be who you are and let everyone else be who they are as the path and journey is always different for each. I wish you nothing but peace and happiness and all the best on your upcomming surgeries hon. Enjoy what you have strove for as will I when I finally get there. Hugs, Melissa

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:22pm (EDT)


No need to worry...plenty of us will welcome you when you join the club next month. You will be an inspiration to others who will follow.

Be yourself and enjoy the changes. When you can, help others by sharing the unique, profound experience of SRS.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:23pm (EDT)


Well Chloe,I can only speak for myself "jealously" not here Chloe not at all we are responsible for own destination there is nothing stopping any of us to progress but ourselves we either do or we don't which ever should not matter I will most likely never go as far as you but that's a choice I have made for now as you have chosen to see it through I admire your courage completley and deseve all the rewards coming your way in your future as a fully fledged Woman,as Lori above says enjoy changes enjoy your moments to.As for being envious or jealous no never just extremely happy for you and Nina as well as you have both found that sweet spot in life.
Leah M.

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 12:19pm (EST)


Chloe:
I will still be yer friend after just like I was before :) May Jesus bless you on your operation.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 10:59pm (CDT)


Lick away girl! Do not worry about what others may think of you. As for better than others after GRS...All I have to say to that is Bah Humbug! Good God Girl, I've heard this time and time again ad nasueatum even amongst CDs. I will be honest with you, it does happen. But don't fret for it is not worth loosing any sleep over those that do not have to courage to take the step and have paid the price that you have to move forward with your life. {side note: some of our sisters do not have the resources or support that you do....that being said, you should not feel remorse or guilty. Those sisters circumstances are probably quite different than yours}.

Some persons are happy with the status quo. Some push the norm (like me and many others). Some take great sacrifices to be whom they are.

I stick with my same advice from day one since I first connected with you....BE YOU FOR YOU. For Hon, if you are not happy with YOU, you cannot be happy with anyone else. Period! {end of lecture}.

Enjoy the purple tongue. Do us all a favor though, let's not see the purple tounge on display at the meat section of your local WallyWorld :)

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 12:30am (EDT)


So the ice cream truck keeps out-pacing me. I gotta run harder and better and shouldn't really have the time to worry about what you have been able to achieve and I haven't. I only see what you have done as an example to be followed, not an article of envy, and maybe I can even learn from your technique. What a stride you have.

Tuesday April 22, 2008 - 09:46pm (PDT)


Oh yes I know this situation very well Chloe as it has happened to me as well. You are finding the truth about much of the TG community and it's lack of support because of people's own insecurities. You are spot on with what you say, but sadly it is a situation you will just have to accept. You have indeed earned your new female freedom, for you had the heart to follow your dream. Others made their choice not to go down that route, and that is not your fault hunni.
Move on, put the people who are no longer with you on your journey behind you, and live life with the true friends and family who have stuck with you all the way.
Much love, Alex. x

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 08:54am (BST)


Girl, I'd sit in the shade and share an ice cream moment with you any day. :-)

*hugs*

Tara

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 12:41pm (EDT)


Chloe, You are the best, caring for others, loving, selfless and always ready to help others the best you can. I love you for who you are. You are beautiful inside and outside. God Bless You, and I hope everything turns out wonderful for you. We all pay a great price for what we want and need. I will always be your friend.
Huggs and Kisses,
Charlene Marr

Wednesday April 23, 2008 - 12:54pm (EDT)


Dear Chloe,

Jealousy, sadly, has and probably will always be around...but, knowing you...though, I wish I knew you better, and much earlier in life, but that's another story...but with what I DO know about you, Chloe, is that you are a VERY strong-minded person, with a HUGE heart full of love and generosity...so, I know you can get past this problem with those certain few out there...and, I can understand where they may be coming from, but I'm going to try my damndest to NOT be jealous of you, or anyone who's licking that ice cream ahead of me. Besides, I like snow cones better anyway.

I know I'm not near where you are now in terms of transitioning, but I hope that we will always be friends, no matter where we go or how far along we are, etc. I've been SO blessed with all the friendships I have made these past few years...yes, mostly online, but I know that the love is there, just about the same as if we all were tangibly(I guess that's the correct term) close...and what makes it even more special, is the wide "range" of friendships, from post-op girls to cd's still in the closet and everyone in-between(I need more trans-men as friends...something to work on :-) )...so, I just hope that, after you get home from Thailand, and begin living totally as your true self(though, of course you will always be evolving, improving,etc.), that we will continue to stay in touch. I have a feeling we will. ((HUGS))

Jeez, Chloe, I should have sent you this in a regular message...oh well, you receive it just the same(if this stooopid 360 works this time I mean, sigh). Take care, and I hope we can talk again soon....but don't worry about it, I can only imagine how busy you are these days!

W/Love
Kelli

Thursday April 24, 2008 - 05:54am (CDT)