Friday, February 20, 2009

Electrolysis on Avenue Q! (New 2009 Update)

(Reposted & updated from my 360 Blog)

Ever feel “Not so fresh”?

For anyone that's ever had unwanted hair, whether it was on your face, back, or even in your most unmentionable of places, and wanted to do something about it, this may not be the Blog for you.
What you need to know: Electrolysis, is a very humbling experience.

Pictured Left (pre-FFS 2008) is what I look like before I go to each of my electrolysis hair removal appointments, once a month.

The Saran Wrap on my face is (you guessed it) to hold in my freshness. I apply a prescription cream on my face called "ELMA", which contains 2.5% Lidocaine & 2.5% Prilocaine, to help mildly and temporarily numb the first layer or 2 of your skin. This helps to ease the pain of the hair removal process, and is usefull in either the Laser or Electrology hair removal chair. You'll need a prescription FIRST becasue hair removal technicians are usually not doctors (or required to be) and can not write perscriptions - just big bills!



I started my hair removal process in the summer of 2005 with a treatment of "I.P.L. Laser". If you've never tried a a laser treatment, well, all I can say, is that its not too bad until they have to put it under your nose or the corners of your mouth. Then, it feels like someone just used your face to shoe an angry mull!

{wham} {wham} {wham}

Over and over again. Sometimes I counted them hiting my face as many as 40 times in the first pass, then another 40 on the second pass at the higher setting... (as if you weren't ready for the "big girl" setting on the first pass).

In the course of 1 year, I endured 12 laser treatments to the face, neck and arms with good results. But lasers do not work on light colored or grey hairs. Being that my hair is naturally dark brown mixed with a few premature greys, 95% responded well, but left me with the some grey to deal with down the road. And oh boy, can those grey hairs be resistant!


Keep in mind the fact that I have Klinefelter’s Syndrome - becasue of this, I had very minimal facial hair around my muzzle area, or body hair other wise.

In truth, my heart goes out to all the Trans-Women that have to endure literally, 100's of costly and painful hours for years, of laser and electrolysis. I have heard cases of 4 – 6 years of working at it, is usually normal.

Before I go to my appointment, I prepare by drinking LOTS of water the day before. This helps keep the skin moister, and in turn, helps the "mixed blend" of AC and DC current flows from the electrolysis needle, to the targeted unwanted hair better.

Now, my drug of choice is Perkiset - it helps ease the pain mostly by minimizing the whole “ordeal” if it all. Valum is good too, but be sure to ask a doctor about it first and of course, use it only as directed. *winks* . Some people have NO problems; others (like myself), view the electrolysis as a torture chamber – but a necessary one if we want to have a feminine face clear of any facial hair.
{zap}{zap}{zap}
If the {zaps} wasn’t enough... The technician, using tweezers, lightly "tugs" (not pulls), but "tugs" on each zapped follicle, to see if it will easily slide out of the raw, sizzled hair shaft. If it doesn’t easily come out, {zap}{zap}{zap} again, and again - until it does slide out on its own! It has to slide out; it can not be "plucked" out.

The tech and you know when a follicle has sizzled at the root, it will release from the shaft effortlessly with no pain. However, if the follicle is zapped while it is NOT in its "growth stage", chances are that it will grow back, even if zapped, because it was in its RESTING stage, and you will need to have it zapped again when it grows back.


Zap, tug, ZAP, tug, ZAP, tug…. Again and again and again.

If you can imagine sticking your face in a barrel of angry bee’s you’d be about there… but the bees would have to also pull your whiskers while they stung you…


NOW YOU’RE COMPLETELY IN THE MOMENT!

Again, the work under the nose can be deliciously painful! I don’t care who you are: THAT HURTS LIKE A MO-FO! Its something I go and do alone - Electrolysis is a private hell - one that the rest of the world doesn't have to endure to be who they are. I lay there crying streams of tears, unable to move, even a muscle in fear of the technician missing, or the needle stabbing me to deep causing a scar. The song playing on my Blog today, its a tune I hum when I go to the appointment. It’s from a Broadway play called Avenue Q. OH MY GOD, its awesome; you simply MUST see it. It’s the Muppets meet Archie Bunker. lol


I forgot to mention the best part of electrolysis:
It's F*ing EXPENSIVE!
-Chloe

38 comments:

  1. Chloe,
    I am on my 6th treatment of laser hair removal, and the results so far have been very rewarding. However, the last few times have been the most painful moments of my life, literally. The searing heat blasting my upper lip has been unbearable, but I can no longer bear to stand the dark shadow protruding through the makeup telling the world "Fat guy in a lady's coat."
    I cried for 15 minutes after the zapping. I don't think people really know the pain until they're under the heat, whether it be laser or electrolysis. When I'm done with laser, I too will have to endure sessions with the electrolysis to zap the remaining greys.

    Thank you for bearing your face to our world to show us what it looks like. Perhaps I'll have photos taken at my next session. To quote the EX -pres Bill Clinton, "I feel your pain!"
    HUGS!
    Lori

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  2. I've had both laser & electro...you're right...both suck! ...and I have plenty more treatments to go! I feel for you, sweetie. Gawd, the crap we have to endure!!!

    Tara

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  3. Another closet Avenue Q fan!!!!!!!!

    (Which, if you've seen the play, you know is said seriously tounge-in-cheek!)

    Chloe, when I saw the title I flipped out... mostly because when I was in NYC recently I saw these orange fuzzy cabs advertising the play. The juxtaposition of the terms "electroysis" and "Avenue Q" created a real visual image...

    I can't say I know the pain real well... I played with an electro machine in my teens (yeah, during the Johnson administration!) and learned the lesson... but I admire your fortitude. And if you get tired of "It Sucks to be Me" you can all ways hum the finale: "(But Only) For Now"!!

    No "Schadenfreude" here, sis!!

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  4. OMG KC, its so nice to know I am not alone. lol. I HIGHLY RECOMEND every trans-person see this play... Infact, they should do an Avenue Q version all about OUR struggles. This play in many ways, closely mirrors our community.

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  5. Agreed.

    Hurts. Like. Hell.

    Next appointment will be at E3000. Let's get this over and done with!

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  6. I had a bit of laser done on my face - just a sample patch. I might get it done, since I'm sick of shaving. Bravo to you for enduring the pain and sharing your story with us! I'd see Ave. Q...but most of Broadway is on strike right now. Those bastards!

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  7. Hahaha! That song is great and the first female singer sounds like the actress from the show/touring company of "Wicked".

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  8. The life of being trans, I always felt the physical pain was nothing to the mental pain of being the wrong gender. But I do hate the physical pain we go through during transition. I will say it will be worth it when you look in the mirror after a shower and you see a female not a male.................My next laser session is next week. DAMMM

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  9. I feel your pain, so far have had about40 hours of electrolosis. Hang in there, it is all worth it honey.

    Hugs,
    Karen

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  10. My experience with the laser was not good. I had eight treatments and saw no visible benefit from it. And I have ideal hair and skin for it. Unfortunately, there is a percentage of people upon whom the laser is ineffective, and I just happen to be in that percentage.

    I've not had to numb my face for electrolysis. I find it very tolerable, which is good, because I'll likely top out at 350-400 hours of it (I'm at roughly the 100 hour mark right now, which has almost cleared my neck between my collarbone and my jawline). Electolysis tends to make me high. I get an endorphine rush after an hour and a half or so. My electrologist claims that I keep my skin very hydrated, which is essential. I also don't consume caffeine, which has also had a role in keeping the pain to a minimum. The worst thing for me is the necessity of growing my beard for electro, which has seriously impaired my ability to present as a woman. I'm very glad that I chose to do this (and the other physical stuff) BEFORE going full time. If I was full time, I don't know how I'd manage it.

    And, Jeezus, it's no fun hemorrhaging money through my hair folicles. No fun at all.

    I feel for you, hon. I do.

    Take care,
    Christianne

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  11. Chloe honey, I know exactly what you mean! I just had an hour session under the needle yesterday. I'd have to count to be sure, but I think I'm at about 43 hours now. You're lucky that you have the EMLA creme, I can't get that without going to a dermatologist, and I don't have that kind of money. I use a 5% lidocaine cream on my face that almost works. :-)
    I've found that not having any caffiene before an appointment really is helpful, I've had it done both ways, so I know the difference. I wasn't as hydrated as I should have been yesterday, so it was even less fun. I never thought about the Ambisol trick, I might have to try that!
    Several months ago, I went to my dentist about an hour before my electrolysis treatment and had him numb my upper lip, no fun for sure, but it was well worth it, I had my electrolygist work on my upper lip for most of the hour session, never felt a thing! That was a wonderful electrolysis experience! I need to do it again, but I'm going to have less shots this time, I don't think complete numbing is necessary for me. I tolorate electrolysis fairly well for an hour session, but the upper lip is definitely the worst! Sideburns are no fun either!
    I also had another chest hair removed yesterday, I never had much, so there wasn't much to do there to start with, but I found the bugger growing a few days ago and had her zap it. Try having a hair or two removed from your ear lobe, that'll get you dancing in the chair!
    You hang in there, it'll be done soon enough, and we all know how necessary it is!

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  12. HOLY CRAP Christianne, you are right on target!

    Being full time and having to grown my whiskers out is crushing to my femininity. Nothing says sexy like a chick with stuble. Yeah, I got it too, AND IT sucks!

    I try keep hydrated as best I can but I AM guilty of drinking Pop daily - I need to cut that down and I knew that about the effect of caffine on your pain levels.

    But having to grow your beard out for a few days before the appoinment is just so harsh - I usually will hide away from everyone for that time.

    Not only that, but DAYS afterward you are red, blotchy and sore -AND- you can't wear makeup afterwards to cover it...

    Oh, but the best and most sexiest feeling is applying the antiseptic creme to your face - WOW, now there's a HOT look!

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  13. Amber, how lucky to have your dentist to numb you for that one time. OMG, if only I could have that done OH SHOOT! That reminds me, I had a dentist appointment today! Ahh crap! Uh oh... Chloe has got some 'splaining to do.

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  14. OMG- Electrolysis is painful especially under the nose. I only had about 100 hours many years back and mostly on my face. So though I still have some I pluck on my lip and chin it's very light. But I still have much to do under my neck. Thankfully most people don't see the undergrowth there because it's hidden. B

    My eletrolygist was Susan Laird out in San Jose so it was a 6 hour drive there and back just to be tortured. But she is really one of the best at killing hair and having it stay dead. Unfortuantely I don't have time to go there nor can I afford her prices anymore. She used mostly a galvanic blend which produces a natural lye in the hair folicule and that destroys it without hurting the collogen. Her website is hairzapper.com I believe.

    Nicole I'd try and avoid E3000 because they use mostly all flash current which can really hurt your skin. I saw a girl from there who had such badly pitted skin I've ever seen. Dermabrassion may help such a nasty assault on your skin but read up on it and research because it's hard to repair severly damaged skin.

    Geez the hell we put ourselves through.

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  15. Well,
    I guess my pain tolerance is a little higher than yours fortunetly. My electrolysis only has put numbing cream on my upper lip area and has not needed it for any of the other areas. For my laser treatments I take 800mg of Ibuprofen about 1/2 hour beforehand. My face is red and a little puffy afterwards but goes away after a couple of hours. I do know I have to wash my face at least twice a day to keep the pimples down and to wash the hairs that are constantly coming out weeks afterwards.

    I guess having about 4 major surgeries have given me a higher tolerance for pain.

    Most of my colored hairs are gone to where we are working on the white hairs now.

    Fortunately I never did have a FULL BEARD.
    Hugs,
    Tamera

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  16. All I want for Christmas is a full lush head of hair and hair where I don't want it!

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  17. Hey, my Sista! I'm right there with ya. Miss Linda, here I come!! At least with this pain, we are getting closer to our goal.

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  18. Sorry gang...can't relate to this experience, or being Gary Coleman like.....catchy tune though *smile*

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  19. Hello Hon,,,
    Have had the Laser and have been going thru Electro on and off now for about two years. I must say the upper lip is a bitch but as long as I can get rid of the pesky hair,,,it is well worth it. And yes I hate having to let it grow for a few days before I go. It spoils the image for sure. And oh that ugly redness afterward really sucks.But am lucky it goes away after a few hours in most all cases.My gal Kathy has a feathering technique where she sort of rubs the skin in the area she is doing it,,helps a great deal. Especially on that upper lip area.So hang in there girl.It is all well worth it for sure.You have the mental fortitude to get it done. And thanks for sharing this topic with us girls,,,,its important
    Paula Katherine White

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  20. I am proud of you and think you are a great person! I am a natural born hermaphrodite and I like me this way! I know looks are important to you but understand to me a heart and personality shine in the dark when looks dont! I like your personality to me that is what makes you wonderful and lovely the looks are just really nice extras to your credit!

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  21. More Drinks More Fun! LOL
    OMG! Avenue Q is absolutely one the best shows I have ever seen!
    It is a MUST see show!
    Good luck with your electrolysis!
    Jenny

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  22. Chloe I agree and commiserate with your pain. I do agree that having typical Klinefelter's beard growth helps. I wouldn't be able to get through this if I had a thick full beard. My beard is naturally white blonde and while I tried laser it removed nothing. To date I have 52 hours of electrolysis and have quite noticable results but there is still more to do. Had I normal male beard growth I would not have made a dent in the beard yet.

    You mentioned the upper lip. That is a b>>>H I agree. But there are two worse spots.

    I had minimal body hair of course but did have a small ring of hairs around my nipples! I had those removed and Sister they HURT!!
    I have also started hair removal in the area of my SRS!!! Sweet J<<<>S!

    I wish you well and hope the hair is gone soon. Your facial skin is much smoother than mine so when done, there should be no signs. I have scarring from acne and years of stress.

    Good Luck with the Electro. It is worth it.

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  23. I love LIFE ..... After reading your blog, I was SO in the moment!

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  24. Kat, there has thus far been no scaring to my skin. My electrolgist uses the "Mix Blend" of current to her work. It is a LONG term commitment - you must begin and be committed for a few years... but you HAVE to start somewhere. 100 of hours are involved, but just take them one at a time and you'll get there. Laser is NOT perminate but does help beat it back for awhile.

    I recommend anyone that is considering it in their future to get started now, becuase it takes so long to get through with it - you might as well begin now - especially if your still living as a boy because it takes a long time to start seeing the difference. That being said, as you transition slowly, others will begin to notice slowly and it won't be that big of a shock when you go full time. No one wants to see a woman with a bearded or even 5-o'clock.

    That and Hormones are the 2 bigest things that take a LONG time to get results, but both are things you can begin before taking that first full time step.

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  25. Chloe Doll,
    Thanks for the invite. I hope to see you at CO Gold Rush 09 & SCC-09.I'll be presenting at both "Our Trans-History" with a celebrity panel.
    As for your treatments, with light hairs you have a challenge. It looks like you have gone beyond the limit with LASER. So, your only choice at this point is electrolysis. Call me and we will discuss the proper method plan. Unfortunately, you live just a bit to far from my service area. But I'll try to help and see you through your treatments with the right professional experience person near you.
    Huggies & nose wiggles,
    Ar'lene
    PS: I hear your cry!

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  26. Every time I hear about electrolysis, I just want to ball up in a corner and cry... not because of the pain, but because of the need to let my beard grow out for a few days. I couldn't afford it in the beginning but ended up going fulltime anyway, so now here I am, 3 1/2 years later, and I haven't even begun the hair removal process... and every time I think about how I'll go about getting it done while still having a life, I end up putting it off even longer.

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  27. I see you're doing your whole face. I know everyone is different, but I found I really only need the emla on my upper lip, so I just do that. I put on a very thick layer, about as thick as the bead that comes out of the tube, and just cover that. It's in place for 75-90 minutes before she works on it, and it's pretty numb for about 20 minutes, and managable for another 20 after that. Yeah, I could use it on other areas, but it seemed a bit of a hassle to cover the whole face. OH, if you have any vicodin or similar, take that prior - helped me alot. I'm out of it now, so I use arthritis strenght tylenol, 650mg tablets. 3 of those before my appointment helps too. I also frequently use an aloe based lotion afterward. Anyway, after my appointment today, my upper lip is darn close to just needing once/week maintenence with no shaving! Yeah!
    Good luck - it's worth it.

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  28. Cute video.. I'm with ya Chloe.. crank up those amps, baby!!!!! LOL you're too much! ((hugs))

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  29. Due that I am older with a lot of gray or clear facial hairs I have had to endure a lot of electrolis. I had 2 lazer treatments and they stopped working due to most of the hairs were not dark. I went to electrolisis with no numbing agents for about 5 times at an hour each. Boy did I earn my big gril panties. I changed my electrolsis technician and the new one was able to provide me with the numbing agent. Now I can suffer through about 1 1/2 hours of treatment before I have to quit due to the pain and massive tears. I have been going for two years now and hope I will be complete within another year. My lips are clear and most of the side of my face and my chin. I am not looking forward to my neck but I know it will be less painful then the upper lip under the nose. I have noticed that after a couple electrolsis treatments the hair comes in black. So now I have a large area done by electrolsis then when it comes in black I run to Lazer and zap them. Then I go back to electrolsis till I have a new crop of dark hair.
    Boy I wish I would have done it when I was in my 30's
    Charlene Cynthia

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  30. Thanks for the comments on electrolysis and laser. Seems to be something we all have to go through. For me, getting good facial hair removal ment electrolysis, and I started with dense growth. After a couple of E3000 treatments, the growth has gotten far less. From my experience, I'd recommend the E3000 proceedure; the lidocane injections are painful, but otherwise the proceedure has worked well. With that much electrolysis, the facial swelling is high, but goes away in a few days. No long-term facial scaring for me at least. Still wish I started this years ago.

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  31. Haven't had any electrolysis yet, but it simply sounds horrifically horrific. My arms are rather extensively tattooed, and some areas hurt more than others, while some barely hurt at all. The most sensitive areas hurt a lot, on my yard stick of pain, but I was still able to hold a conversation and tears were never the result. From the sound of it, electrolysis makes the pain of getting a tattoo feel like a lover's kiss in comparison. I had some skin tags removed under my arms recently, and my doctor used some kind of burning tool and it was unbearable. He finally gave me a shot of something that made the process 100% painless. Why isn't his possible with electrolysis??? It's amazing that the sense of being female is so strong that we're willing to subject ourselves to the pain and the surgery and all rest.

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  32. Lucky for me I don't have to endure the painstaking hours of both laser & electro which I have tried both and wrote about it. Never had hair on my body or my face for that matter and I would prefer Electro over laser any day it is fast and I go wihout little hairs poking out after two weeks. I could spend a half hour in the office the most and hour. With that hour she does my neck, face and eye brows.

    Just like you having Klinefelter’s Syndrome is a blessing I can not imagine the girls going through those long house being zapped.
    The upper lip in the angels kiss is the worst, I cry after she hits that and no matter what type of numbing cream I use (Lido 4%)I am crying.
    The three types of hair removal each has their own benefit even that doesn't stop the hurt above the lip.

    http://shaunabaggett.blogspot.com/2008/10/3-ways-of-removing-hair-videos-show-you.html

    So in all I just do it every now and then when I see tiny hairs poking up and usually they are white.

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  33. I have had so far about 25 hours of laser on my legs , stomach, chest, arms and face.
    It has been relatively succesful with just a run over with an epilator every 3 weeks or so on my body.
    However for the face I had many grey hairs and very stubborn dark ones. After 8 sessions on my face I decided to have electrolysis.
    So far 15 hours down the line and DAMN DOES IT HURT.
    Give me laser any day.
    While also painful it was over on the face in 10 - 15 minutes and no repeat for a month!
    While it really hurt under the nose it was bearable everywhere else.
    I have to say I take 3 good painkillers before each session to take the edge off the pain. I can still feel it but I just think about the reward.
    The great thing about having the laser first is that my face looks hairless.
    Each week around 1 hour of electrolysis kills any regrowth and gets rid of the grey. So I dont have any visisble hairs. Yippee!!!

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  34. Just had my third laser treatment on Saturday and my face is still recovering. My personal pain-relieving cocktail is six advil and lots of ice. The worst is splotchy growth and going to work looking like a molted dog!

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  35. It sure makes you jump but I figured that if I was going to have to endure countless hours ( I do not want to know how much it has cost!) a coping technique was required. Each ZAP is going to happen so I anticipated it rather than shying away when it hit, soon you you can feel the different character of each ZAP, the pain seemed less because it was expected, sometimes I fell asleep!

    Just back from a session, best yet, we are trading a portrait session for pain.
    The suffering is almost over.

    How I wish I had not been afraid of the pain and did not do this decades ago. At last I feel alive.

    Caroline.

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  36. My first time in the chair I had to stop a couple times crying, especially in the angels kiss area. I immediately went back to my office, put together a new hypnotherapy session I use right before each time iun the chair and now don't feel a thing. My Electroligist keeps trying to talk me into selling it. She says I'd make a fortune.

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  37. I have always been quite embarrassed about how much hair I had on my back and armpit, but I didn’t really know there was actually something I could do about it. Now that I completed the laser hair removal treatments, the hair on my back and armpit is gone and I don’t have to worry about it at all.
    And now I just feel like one of the lucky women who never had any back hair and armpit.

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